Timer PUSH setting for PS2

[Andrew_Dulay]

Using the AMG Commander timers we are able to “push” each shot through to the Android or iOS tablets for Steel and IDPA matches.

We are about to make the change over to PS2 but can’t make the “push” of the timer to the tablet now. Yes, it will pull the time when the timer icon is pushed, but watching for each shot is apparently not working for now (to confirm the last shot fired) or is that the way it is now supposed to work?

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[euxx]

@Andrew_Dulay there are several things at play.

1. Check that you have the push option checked in the timer settings in the PractiScore 2 app (you can access them from the timer list screen for the linked timer)
2. You need to have the right firmware in your AMG timer. For that part you need to contact AMG.

[Andrew_Dulay]

OK, had to uncheck the “push” box on the tablet for some reason and it started to work correctly.

At least our Android tablets are now pushing the individual shot times like before.

Still can’t get the iOS phone and iPads to get the shots pushed to them. It appears to try to push the shots but only the blue line lights up but no time updates. Hitting the icon for the timer does bring the time in though when requested.

I’ll have more time to work with it after tonight’s match where we will be running the Android tablets.

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[euxx]

@Andrew_Dulay you need to make sure you are running the same app version on Android and iOS.

Apple was giving us trouble last week, and the iOS app was a few versions behind. So, you are likely hitting a bug that had been fixed, but most likely you got an updated app version only on Android.

The 2.0.23+48 app version was posted today to all app stores with bunch of fixes.

[Andrew_Dulay]

Thanks.

I’ll check it out later tonight while testing.

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[Andrew_Dulay]

Apple/iOS version came through last night and the “push” of individual shots is now working on both Android and Apple devices.

Thank you.

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[Gavin_Cook]

I see in this post,

Bluetooth timers supported in the PractiScore scoring apps

Bluetooth-enabled timers integration with PractiScore app for Android and PractiScore 2 app allows to download stage time, including all recorded individual shots and save them with the competitor’s scores. This data is shown on the scores review screen, as well as in the PractiScore Competitor app. For practicing with a Bluetooth-enabled timer we recommend to check the PractiScore Log app. It keeps track of repeated drills without a need to spend time on configuring matches, stages and addin…

It is stated,

• For the AMG Lab timer
  • a tap on the “Timer” icon will download current string time
  • you can stop timer using “<” or “>” buttons on the timer
  • the timer also has “push” mode which can be enabled in the timer system menu (see documentation for more details). Though we don’t recommend using this mode for matches

Why is push not recommended for matches?

As I am the new scorer for my club, I have started pushing the club to change over to the PS2 app. They struggle with the concept of change
We finally got to use PS2 the other night and noticed the timers were not pushing each individual shot to the tablet, I did manage to find the settings and change this.
Due to the variation of people we have ROing at our club matches, everyone has become accustom to PS1 when the time automatically synced with the tablet.

SO,
Why do you recommend not using the push function during matches?

I have worked out that if the RO pushes either arrow < or > the time is pushed to the tablet, or the timer button can be pressed on the tablet to pull from the timer.

This is more change and teaching old dogs new tricks, sadly they may have to deal with it or find a different sport.

Thanks in advance
Gavin

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@Gavin_Cook

Why do you recommend not using the push function during matches?

Generally it opens a door to loading arbitrary data into the competitor’s scores. That includes some random noises at the end of the string, in case timer sensitivity is not configured correctly (e.g. people crank it up for .22 or suppressed guns). ROs stop paying attention to the time and they don’t verify or monitor the recorded time at all.

The < and > buttons on the AMG timer are not pushing the time. They actually stop the currently running string.

[Gavin_Cook]

Thank you for that explanation

[Warren_Harper]

I was at nationals a good while back and one of the stages had configured a timer to be in push mode to a tablet. When they exchanged the tablets for a later session, I ended up with that tablet - but the timer was in an adjacent bay. We were on top of things, and noticed that intermittently their fixed time stage would push a time string over to our tablet. We got it fixed quickly, but generally there are a lot of things that can happen that are unintended consequences.

I don’t like using the stop feature either. It works great until the shooter decides to resume shooting. A good practice is the person with the pad can pull times as soon as the shooter looks to be done. If they keep shooting, just pull the times again.

Our club has a lot of shooters, and they were able to adapt pretty quick when we started using BT connected timers. Generally it is so easy to just push the clock button to pull the times as compared to typing it into the tablet, so people just do it.